This is part two of our conversation with Colleen Jorgensen our favorite osteopath and pain care educator, about the body as a network. And last week, we were speaking in broad terms about this idea that we are all of us more than the individual systems that make up our body and how that is an important understanding and awareness for overall health. Now, we're going to take a little different approach to that same information and look at how we can apply some of this awareness as instructors in a group fitness setting or one on one with people. So you're gonna get to hear some really specific ideas and tips and ways and things that you can apply with your classes right now.

we have our favorite osteopath and pain care educator Colleen Jorgensen back with us on the work in and as you may remember Colleen is also a pain care where trainer a therapeutic Pilates yoga and Cymatics practitioner and she brings a world of experience with her to the conversation around all things wellness movements, and connecting the mind and body for real world resilience and results. Our conversation today was centered around the body as a network of systems and how we can use that network through small movements, small tools to bring big relief.

My guest is Colleen Jorgensen from stillness in motion, She has been on the program several times in the past, and you can check the show notes for links to those other podcast episodes we've spoken in the past about communication about pain care, awareness, and clean is just an amazing instructor. She's an osteopath and yoga instructor and has years and years of experience in the fields, both in the fitness industry and with pain care. And she is just a fantastic teacher for general population, but also really an inspiration for other fitness professionals, both in and out of the yoga industry. And so I'm really excited to have her today we're going to be talking more about communication, more about how to elevate our skill level in communication, both with our students and our clients and also maybe some more internal connections with ourself, just to make our amazing careers even more amazing. So please welcome to the podcast. My good friend Colleen. Jorgensen

When you live with chronic pain, there is nothing about your life that is not affected when you live with chronic pain. And that is an aspect that the people around you can't quite understand so it's difficult to share the experience. You know, one of the most challenging things I think for most people is their sense of identity their sense of self often the things that they did that they identified with as being them, are things that they are no longer able to do and then you have this whole identity crisis moment of figuring out well who am I?

Physical pain is no different than feeling abandoned. It's no different than... our nervous system doesn't recognize emotional pain from physical pain, it's all the same. So whether you're someone who's dealing with anxiety, depression, PTSD, trauma, chronic pain, acute pain, if you can learn how to tune into your nervous system. Become aware, learn to titrate, give it what it can accept, and keep trying to give it just that little bit more and then always bring it back to the safety when it's at a point where it can't quite handle it anymore. And then go there again. It's amazing the changes that you can see.